Men and Boys’ Issues in Brief

A very brief bullet point list of men and boys’ issues follows. For a slight amplification of what these issues entail – but still in brief – read the Introduction to the Disadvantages faced by Men and Boys.

  • Educational disadvantage of boys, from aged 5 to university.
  • Lack of recognition of, or assistance for, male victims of partner abuse.
  • Men’s shorter life expectancy.
  • Substantially less research funding on men-only diseases compared with women-only diseases.
  • Male suicide rates are 3.8 times that of females, suicide being the commonest cause of death in males under 45.
  • Men have virtually no paternity rights.
  • Paternity fraud is rife, is extremely damaging to men, but society regards it as just fine.
  • The family courts discriminate outrageously against fathers.
  • False allegations are commonly used as a tactic against men in the family courts.
  • One in three fathers do not live with their children, most often against their wishes.
  • The bar is being ever lowered on what is regarded as sexual assault by males on females, whilst the penalties are becoming more severe. The result is that women have the power to destroy a man for minor offences or issues of perception.
  • In contrast, sexual assault of males (of all ages) by females remains largely unrecognised by society and the criminal justice system alike.
  • Grossly inequitable treatment of men and women in the criminal justice system. Three out of every four men in prison would not be there if they were treated like women.
  • Whilst we hear a great deal about the “pay gap”, it is women who spend most of the money, whoever earns it.
  • For full time workers under 35 years old, women’s median pay rate exceeds that of men. This pay advantage in favour of younger women is likely to increase as men’s educational fortunes sink further.
  • There is a gender pay gap in favour of men for older full time workers only because women tend to prioritise work-life balance over earnings and men tend to do the opposite. Men therefore work substantially more hours per week, and work for more continuous years. The pay gap merely means that men work more and are home less – some privilege.
  • Men are 96% of workplace fatalities, and are far more likely to suffer injuries at work or to get work related diseases than women.
  • Women seek “equality” with men only in desirable occupations (consultants, professors, Board members, MPs, etc) not in the jobs that 99% of men do – the nasty, dirty, dangerous jobs that lead to the above fatalities.
  • Men (or boys) are more likely to be the victims of violence than women (or girls) – despite the constant exhortations that we should “end violence against women”.
  • Around 90% of homeless rough sleepers are men.
  • 99% of war deaths and casualties are men.
  • Female genital mutilation is illegal and universally reviled. Male genital mutilation is regarded as perfectly acceptable and without disbenefit to the man (it isn’t). Half a million African boys killed or maimed in the last eight years by botched circumcisions goes unnoticed.
  • Female suffering is newsworthy, male suffering is not (e.g., Boko Haram – how many people know that their main activity is killing boys?).
  • There is a lack of action on under-representation of men in certain professions, contrasting with the huge focus on assisting women into areas where they are under-represented (e.g., STEM, though women now dominate in STEMM).
  • Male-only organisations have systematically been obliged to accept females, whilst the reverse is not true.

For a little more detail on these issues read the Introduction to the Disadvantages faced by Men and Boys.

For far more detail, read the rest of this site – or the associated Wiki: mhrm.uk.

39 thoughts on “Men and Boys’ Issues in Brief

  1. littlefrog

    MGTOW-man

    Dress codes, that’s quite a strange point to make…I find women’s clothing flimsy, impractical and generally made for style over substance. Cropped jumpers (so your middle gets cold), jumpers with 3/4 sleeves, everything without pockets, skinny jeans that hurt your belly etc. Men always look so warm and comfortable! I’d also like to know why a man can go topless on a hot day but not women. We definitely need equality when it comes to dress codes!

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  2. Godfrey

    Hi William,
    Looking with interest at ‘GCSE Results 2017’ and I note that your excellent site has been attacked.
    On the home page, there is horizontal bar with clickable links: ‘Home’, ‘Introduction to the disadvantages faced by men and boys’ and ‘UK Education: a summary’. Clicking on ‘UK Education: a summary’ leads to the a lot of nonsense about buying drugs online. The nonsense material is formatted in typeface & spacing identical to what you use on the real website, so it took me a number of seconds to notice that this alien material was nonsense.
    Godders.

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    1. William Collins Post author

      Many thanks for letting me know – I hadn’t noticed. Unfortunately I had to delete that page to get rid of the garbage. I’ll put it back up from the original text when I have a moment. Thanks again. Worrying.

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  3. littlefrog

    Is it just me or is there no actual conflict between men’s rights movements and feminism? Feminism is a fight for equality not a fight against men, so men’s issues are women’s issues and deserve as much consideration. As a woman and a feminist I’d stand behind this movement 100%. Perhaps it’s time to let go of all the isms and schisms and just focus on our shared humanity.

    The majority of political and financial power is in the hands of men but that doesn’t mean that it benefits the majority of men (in Western countries) at an individual level. They face discrimination and disadvantages in many ways too. Men exploit women sexually far more though and there are enormous global industries in violent and degrading porn, prostitution and sexual slavery where men are almost exclusively perpetrators. Men rarely recognise the harm that these cause so the men of this movement must be ready to turn a critical eye on themselves too before flicking on the porn channel.

    Men have been willing to give up privileges and listen to women’s concerns and we must do the same. Failure to do this may unleash something very ugly. They are our husbands, brothers, fathers, lovers, and sons, not our oppressors and captors. They deserve respect, compassion and equality.

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  4. TruthTeller

    OMG there are a whole long list of things women lose out on against men:

    1) women are paid 79% less than men for the same job.
    2) you say that women spend more than men whoever earns it but you are forgetting that a huge amount of women’s spending is on the children that they produced together!
    3) fewer women work in government, media, as executives, in technology…
    4) women do more housework than men
    5) female products are more expensive than male versions
    6) women are way more human trafficked than men
    7) high-school sports are male-dominated
    8) retired women are double likely to live in poverty
    9) all women are far more likely to live in poverty
    10) lack of sanitation has worse effects on females than males
    11) females in 3rd world countries are the ones sent on dangerous journeys to fetch water
    12) gender inequality is prevalent in 3rd world and developing countries
    13) as child bearers women’s careers are detrimentally effected despite equality laws
    14) women lose their children in the patriarchal family court system to abusive ex partners
    15) one in four women will be a victim of sexual assault in her lifetime
    16) women are treated less favourably and overlooked at work (also sexually harassed)
    17) women are far more likely to be deemed as anxious or neurotic parents than men, also false allegations of MSBP/FII

    Loads more.

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    1. Tim E

      TruthTeller, is that really the best you could come up with? I reckon I’d get more sense from an automatic teller, but here goes:
      1) “women are paid 79% less than men for the same job”. Utter nonsense. If you’re talking about the ‘gender pay gap’, that’s been thoroughly debunked. Where have you been hiding?
      2) Ever noticed the proportion of retail space devoted exclusively to women?
      3) In my country (Australia) more women than men work in government. Anyway, what is your point? Sounds like you’re trying to blame men for women’s life choices.
      4) According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, Men and women in Australia do equal amounts of total paid and unpaid work (measured in time, not effort or outcome mind). Are you suggesting that men should do a disproportionate amount of work?
      5) A rational person would respond by buying the male version of the product. Sounds like you’re blaming men for women’s irrationality.
      6) I wonder if that’s actually true if you look at all forms of slavery, including bonded labour.
      7) Nearly all sport is segregated by sex so how exactly is it male-dominated? Sounds like you’re trying to blame boys for being more active than girls. Perhaps the girls could try getting off their fat arses – they might actually save the taxpayer some money later in life.
      8) So what? Sounds like you’re trying to blame men for women’s life choices. If you habitually spend more money than you earn, you’re likely to retire in poverty.
      9) Essentially the same point as 8)
      10) I’m not sure what “effects” you’re referring to. Fat women in particular can have pretty awful BO but then so do some men. Perhaps women could take more responsibility for sanitation instead of expecting men to do everything for them.
      11) There are many far more dangerous occupations than fetching water, nearly all of them performed by men. In any case, I expect you only have to walk a few metres to a tap to get yours, so how is your point even relevant to this article?
      12) Again, how is this point relevant to an article about the institutionalised discrimination against men and boys in a first world country?
      13) Sounds like you’re trying to blame men for women’s life choices. In case you hadn’t noticed, there are enough people in the world already.
      14) Don’t be ridiculous.
      15) *Bullshit statistic alert*. I thought you were a truth teller.
      16) Some women, sure, but as a group certainly not. Ever heard of ‘affirmative action’? Sounds like you’re trying to blame men for women’s life choices.
      17) Maybe it’s because women are more anxious and neurotic parents. That’s certainly my experience.

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  5. Lawrence Newman

    Do you have a source for the claim about 500k African boys being maimed or killed in the last 8 yrs? Mgm is always maiming, mind you.

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      1. Lawrence Newman

        Thanks. It was bad enough before but without regulation unethical capitalists will exploit it and make matters worse.

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  6. Andrew

    pps sorry for bad translation from russian

    If there are more boys in your family, than girls, but in other families, for example, there are girls only,
    then why your children should serve and be cannon fodder, what is their guilty? The fact that they were born the wrong gender?
    Have you invested in them less effort, money and love, than parents of girls? Think about your children’s children, as if they, too, will be boys? If, in some countries, for women quotas are introduced in parliament, then they should have quotas in squads involved in a military combat.
    Why do men agree to be lower than women, has it been been seen in the history, that the man should have fewer rights and more responsibilities? It used to be quite the opposite, for example,the penalty for killing a woman was twice less than for killing a men. If some men think that women are
    more important than them, then they should serve in the army in the first place.

    It is believed, that in the past, women were the property of men. Property can not fight, so in those days women didn’t serve in the army. Today, men and women have equal rights – and rightly so, and therefore the man should no longer protect women as their property, and the woman should protect herself
    as a complete person equal to man. Actively fought women of such nations as the Celts and Sarmatians, the Scythians, the Nordic Valkyries also did not arise out of nowhere. And Cimmerian, from whom came the Slavs, their woman could not marry until they bring the enemy’s head. But the women who fought,
    had the same rights, so in the history there always has been a direct link between the military duty of citizens and civil rights.

    Of course, not every country has the military conflict, but there are countries where such conflicts may arise. Even in calm countries where forced recruitment is not planned, there are still discriminatory laws, giving privileges to women in recruitment matters. The question arises – why do they exist? Yes, then, that in emergency situations to make man meat. And if you, gentlemens, dont want to become meat, you need to protect your rights today, and not when it is too late, and there will be no time to change something. In the wild nature, for example, in most species, males and females live
    equally and have equal rights, responsibilities and survival, and the distribution of people like cattle, when most males go for slaughter – is manifestly fascist.

    Imagine if in an army served only women, do you think they would have suffered, or demanded equal rights and responsibilities with men? The worst thing is not that men are discriminated and are forced to become meat on the basis of sex, but that they do not even require the equal treatment of both sexes. They do not realize that childbirth is just a job, which is much easier and safer than, for example, the work of a miner, and for the work no one should receive an exemption from the military service or any special privileges other than monetary rewards. Yes, childbirth, sometimes is painful, but no one is exempted from military service, from those who have passed, for example, through a painful reception at the dentist.

    After all, the main burden of child raising are, again, in the men. While women work for childcare is usually not as hard. But most men are working hard,earning money for the children. Do not forget, that women who do not have children, or are infertile, or even those who claim that they did not ever
    think about childbirth – childfree – also dont have to serve in the army. Is that normal?

    Even if we imagine, that discrimination on basis of sex may be economically beneficial to the country, as, for example, once, slavery was profitable, it does not mean that such discrimination is permitted. Neither slavery nor conscription of men to the army, in the absence of conscription for women
    can not be justified by any economic or demographic benefits, because above all this, there are human rights. In addition, conscription of women equally with men, most likely, will improve the country’s economic and demographic indicators. Therefore, any rights of men must be greatly expanded, and we are not talking about the benefits of plots or free transport tickets, or women should be deprived of many rights and are endowed with additional responsibilities, or women should be drafted into the army.

    The scale of the threat to Israel, North Korea or Norway is not as great as for our country, but even there, women are encouraged to join the army. In Georgia, too, there was introduced a bill on compulsory military service for women. In some places such practice has already been applied, that men
    and women live in the same barracks, and are washed in the same bath, so there is no need for additional infrastructure for a women conscription. Naturally, the appeal of women should not be sham, as it happens in some armies of the world, when they only shift the papers, and then receive military
    pensions and apartments, and a woman should be fully participating in the military combat.

    Women are conscripted into the Kurdish militia, where they account for 30% of participants, and after a month’s course of study their effectiveness is not inferior to men in battle. According to the latest research and the experience of fitness trainers, muscles of women often grow even faster than that of men, and, as a result of physical activity during pregnancy, childbirth, then, passes even better. The reproductive cycle of women, although it may be suffering from stress, but even women who passed the concentration camps or the Second World War combats, in the majority, then successfully gave birth.It is believed also that psychologically women are more stable and more executive than men.

    When women are deprived of their duty to marry and have children, then men are not deprived of their duty to serve in the army. Women did very tricky – they have equal rights, but forgot about equal responsibilities. We must understand that equal rights mean equal responsibilities. It is because
    responsibilities restrict rights, and thus make them unequal. Society should not be considered as two separate gender or sex. Society is one unit, and if some people can give birth, it does not mean that they should have more rights and fewer responsibilities than those who can not. If women take equal
    part in the elections, so they influence to the policy of the state, then they must carry equal responsibility on the battlefield, if this policy, for example, led to war. Just because of the equal rights and opportunities for women leaving abroad, demographics is suffering, but equal rights is correct, only with equal responsibilities and therefore men and women have on an equal basis to serve in the army.

    It is unclear why the men are compulsory drafted, but not women. After all, there are enough man volunteers and contract military serving in the army. It means that the male half of the population does so much more to the Army than women. Therefore, primarily woman should be compulsory drafted.
    Lack of conscription or military draft for women is not positive discrimination, because those men who serve in the place of women are discriminated. If, for example, some citizens are physically stronger or better able to fight, it does not mean that they should forcibly, for free, to work in mines for those citizens, who are physically weaker, or die for them on the battlefield. Stronger citizens are not worse than the weaker, and all citizens are equal under the constitution. Some people say that the conscription of women into an army is hate of woman. So, if some citizens say that only man should be conscripted into an army – isn’t it hate of men? Why women do not serve even the alternative community service?

    To not affect a demography, it is possible to conscript women after 30 years old for active participation in military combat, and the father of their children can stay at home for childcare, and the children can be fed with a special child food. It is sufficient to note that many women do not breastfeed, so their breast doesn’t not lose shape. Demographics can be encouraged by the fact, that women who have not given birth to two children under 25 years, can be conscripted to participate in military combat, not at 30 years old, but at 25. By the way, father’s right to education of the child should be the same as mother’s,
    because the genetic code of a child is by half father’s. And younger woman can be consсrited to protect the safer parts of the front, as well as for logistics and engineering.

    To prevent pregnancy, women can set special spiral, use of oral contraceptives, and in case of failure – the woman herself is responsible, and her pregnancy is regarded as a negligent attitude to military service, and shall be punished by imprisonment accordingly. However, if a pregnant
    woman can continue to perform combat missions, the punishment for her can be canceled. There are examples of women who engaged in kickboxing at nines month of pregnancy, and it didn’t not harm the baby. The combat vest can be replaced by larger, because the soldiers who have additional weight and have belly can serve too, and special combat jackets for pregnant women could be bought. In the case of the death of a pregnant soldier, the number of population of the country may suffer a bit, but in the peacetime women use contraception and make millions of abortions, and they do not see any
    problems with it.

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    1. fef

      “There are examples of women who engaged in kickboxing at nines month of pregnancy, and it didn’t not harm the baby.”
      Rare cases. In most countries there are even laws prohibiting women to work even in an office when they’re near 9 months (it varies from nation to nation) because it could prejudice her or the baby. If some women are resistant at the point they can do martial arts while 9-month pregnant, congratulations to them. Because most are not.

      “To prevent pregnancy, women can set special spiral, use of oral contraceptives, and in case of failure – the woman herself is responsible, and her pregnancy is regarded as a negligent attitude to military service, and shall be punished by imprisonment accordingly.”

      Pregnancy in military service is an accident. It’s like saying “oh you broke your arm by accident, you shouldn’t have tried to do [this], now you’ll go to jail”. And contraceptives are not 100% safe and do some really bad things with hormones. It’s like I saying to you you’re going to jail for impregnating a civilian while in military service. By an ethic pillar, if she could “just avoid pregnancy by not making sex at all”, you should also be forbidden to fuck.

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  7. Groan

    https://visual.ons.gov.uk/find-out-the-gender-pay-gap-for-your-job/

    This is an interactive site just published by the Gov. One can quickly find the “pay gap” for different occupations. So for instance Psychologists the gap is 9% in favour of women much higher for midwives (no surprise there) similar gaps for women in Podiatry and other health professions. Readers may be interested to see their industry or do their own comparisons. If nothing else (as in the case for Midwives) it demonstrates the daftness of the figures of “gap”.

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  9. MGTOW-man

    The dress code. Women are nearly free to wear what they want to work. Even in professional environments, women get to wear more comfortable, airy, colorful and “fun” clothing while men must wear drab-colored suits and neck ties that stiffen and choke them all day. If a man dared to show up to work in “modified” tank tops like a lot of women do, we all know what would happen to those men. If suits are required, both men and women should be required to wear them, else relax the rules for men’s attire. Women can show up with their breasts practically hanging out and considered professional and/or suitable, but let a man show up with his top shirt button open and he is “flashing his chest…hating and hurting women.”

    Equality must mean equal dress codes.

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    1. Deecosis

      As a former Design technology Teacher the dress code issue was always baffling to me. I had to insist that girls with long hair tied their hair up before working with machinery as they could get cough and scalped. But when I addressed the risk of male students and staff being at risk due to their ties and been pulled in by a slip knot around their throats, and asked if we could take off ties in the classroom. The answer was “That’s the dress code, just move the tie out the way.”

      I had to weld, braze, hammer, saw and drill in a full suit where the female art teachers came in wearing flipflops vest tops floaty skirts and giant hoop ear rings.

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    1. Andrew Derbyshire

      Hi,

      I have done the same. It appears that it just doesn’t confirm that you have subscribed. Your email will disappear and you should have received an email to confirm you have subscribed intentionally or are not a robot.

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  10. Kris Gray

    I forgot to mention.
    Men are constantly being dumbed down on TV shows, they are either stupid and constantly being pushs around by women i.e ‘Scott and Bailey’ being a prime culprit, or bullies i.e Phil Mitchell, although the list is endless. So girls grow up thinking it’s all right to control the lives of men because they are all b******* anyway. Woman are constantly shown as being the boss, especially cop shows, no wonder our young men are failing at school, what do they have to look forward too? Either doing the dirty/tough jobs women can’t or won’t or to be cannon fodder for the next war.
    Who’d be a boy these days?

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  11. Kris Gray

    All very well complaining, I agree with all points on this site, but what are we doing about it? Let’s face it, it was men who brought in all these rules and regulations to favour women over men, can we really complain? So, what are we going to do about it?

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  12. Douglas

    You list ‘There is no gender pay gap for people under 40 years old” but this is mis-stated. An absolutely exact average earnings between the sexes is highly unlikely: there is almost certainly goig to be some difference. (Average annual earning, before tax, is the only basis for ‘pay gap’, regardless of hours worked, usefulness of education, years in service, commute distance or any other metric which would obviously be needed to really understand if there might be discrimination.)

    So the statement should be ‘There is a gender pay gap for people under 40 years old which ‘discriminates’ against men.’

    While you point out that it is women who spend most of the money, whoever earns it, you omit to point out that average INCOME (totalling earned and un-earned) is greater for women than men.

    http://antimisandry.com/blogs/douglas-709.htm

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  13. Partridge

    Male-only organisations have systematically been obliged to accept females, whilst the reverse is not true.

    The Scouting movement, for example. Golf clubs, and so on. However, while they may be obliged to accept females, they are not obliged to accept feminists.

    I look forward to the day when it is widely recognised that feminism is a man-hating totalitarian ideology based on false history and lies. It just needs one organisation, either within academia or in wider society, to have the guts to stand up to these feminist bullies.

    When the tide eventually turns, they will be swept away.

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  14. Dave Brown

    Hello. I am doing research on Domestic Violence protection orders.

    In AVFM article that you wrote, you claim that police can kick you from you home for 29 days? My impression from the governemtn website is the lengh of time is 48 hours. The way the government sites word it is confusing.

    Can you update me on current DVPO laws please?

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  15. Meinaime

    This page links to RedPillUK, but I’m forbidden access.

    (Thanks for all the work on mra-uk.co.uk. I think I’ve read the lot.)

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        1. William Collins Post author

          I watched your film yesterday, as it happens. I am happy to recommend it to others, http://www.personanongrata.org.uk . It is a realistic portrayal of how the family courts operate & how PA arises. I would like to do a post on the stats on PA, though getting hold of such data is notoriously difficult, not least due to the family courts operating in secret and accountable to no one. If I manage such a post, I’ll link to your film again.

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  16. Meinaime

    I would add the failure of family courts to respect pre-nups. (I’m 58 and living off my savings. I dare not share my house with a woman as I cannot afford to risk losing half my money.)

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  17. Eubie

    This is a nice, crisply written list. I would make a small suggestion: the jobs men work that women don’t want often are referred to as ‘dirty, difficult, and/or dangerous,’ thus allowing for the phrase ‘3D jobs,’ a more easily remembered and referenced short-hand term.

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  18. PeterPan

    really good list, might
    add:

    – car
    insurance is lower for woman (as woman do not claim insurance as often as man
    does, woman have less accidents) This is gender bias and segregation, yet


    health care contribution to privet or public health system is the same even
    when woman exercise 70%! More visits to doctors then man do and this exclude
    pregnancy visits!

    – It’s
    perfectly acceptable for woman to have numerous Business awards exclusive to
    their gender but man’s awards are inclusive to woman otherwise are considered
    sexist!

    – woman
    initiatives to start business and even study are exclusive just to woman and
    there are no initiatives to help already struggling boys and man in education
    and businesses in similar capacity as woman enjoy.

    – No
    government body to represent man issues in similar capacity as Office for Woman
    for over 40 decades!


    lower test for some occupations for woman only but not for obese or mentally
    incapacitated man

    – sex
    discriminatory laws at work places are disadvantage man, woman who can’t
    perform the jobs at the same levels as man is are given to, to avoid law
    suites! (i.e.;.. manger positions in banks, tire retreat company in Sydney had
    to employ tiny young woman to do hard physically demanding job (some man had
    been denied this online position!). The manager had lost his job who had denied
    her the position, then next one as the production had suffered due to her not
    being able to keep up with the speed of the line and other worked had do assist
    her doing her task not just theirs! Soon after she had left hers job as it was too
    hard. How many men need it to pay for her misguided aspirations? Who had payed
    for her consequences? The man, I can provide more information if needed.

    – Retirement
    age difference and as mentioned before man’s lives shorter after retirement,
    hence the benefit to support woman is greater than man.


    drugging boys at school to inhabit and control theirs behaviour! Removal of
    school physical activities, not running, severe punishment including
    suspensions from schools for playing innocent guns/war games. This further disadvantages boys and is
    directly linked to future study’s drop out!
    Competition which is part of growing as a boy is weeded out in place of
    cooperation and majority consensus. (See how this had worked out for bunch woman
    placed on island!? A TV show similar to survivors)


    Media betrayal of a man and
    boys in TV, adds as “slow” etc…

    I finish here, it seems to
    me there is big plan to handicap boys and man just to achieve unfear advantages
    for woman, from healthcare, education to sentencing! On every level!

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